Posts by problemaddict 2

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Coping With Atheism (Long-ish Post...sorry!)

by humblepotato in

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long time lurker (2009-ish), first time poster.

first of all, i want to say thank you everyone who contributes to these boards and provokes stimulating conversations and thought processes.

all the opinions and different perspectives are very enlightening.

problemaddict 2

Blood was my wake up a few years ago. Disfellowshipping finally got my wife out in the last year.

Its different for everyone. I am like you in that i seemed to be around the "good" JW's. Even handed guys, that i could talk real with, and that were loyal but also seemed reasonable. But they are the minority. the super minority. All it took was one run in with some Pharisaical elder JW, and for the branch to stand by this guy to no end, for me to say...oh yeah.....I was around some unique people but that doesn't represent what is ACTUALLY taught.

Your wife is your priority. I think the sex abuse cover ups and blood "stumbling" you are a good way to go with your wife. Like Giordano said, let her get used to it. Then start fading. You really need to think about her, how you can communicate with her, and eventually she will have her own journey. Don't have kids until it is settled....and then.....have some. They are great! They give you a totally different sense of purpose. they connect you to the past and future. they are your immortality. Not some fairy land.

I am agnostic and leaning atheist. i find the thought of death hard to bear. But I'm working on it.

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Having a hard time holding my tongue...

by problemaddict 2 in

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...recently.. i'm normally pretty calculated.

my fade is done, my wife is out, my family and friends know, i maintain quite abit of the friendships of those closest to me jw or not, my family isn't shunning, and the few people we have kept it from for other reasons we are calculating how to break it.

(elderly matriarch that we are simply not going to tell so she doesn't die).. but.....all these facebook meme's and stupid feeds about reliance on jehovah, distraction, staying close to his organization, persevering against satan.....its driving me nuts.

problemaddict 2

...recently.

I'm normally pretty calculated. My fade is done, my wife is out, my family and friends know, I maintain quite abit of the friendships of those closest to me JW or not, my family isn't shunning, and the few people we have kept it from for other reasons we are calculating how to break it. (elderly matriarch that we are simply not going to tell so she doesn't die).

But.....all these facebook meme's and stupid feeds about reliance on Jehovah, distraction, staying close to his organization, persevering against Satan.....its driving me nuts. I find myself basically almost blowing my cover and just laying it out there because of a silly post.

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4 New BOEs as of Tuesday 4/28

by Atlantis in

we thank our informant for these documents and hope he/she will remain under the radar safely!.

click the green download button... 2015 april 17, boe (re: meeting medical needs in the foreign-language field).

.. http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/gukk6aq.

problemaddict 2

Honestly I am surprised at the surprise. There is no possible way to wiggle out of the blood ban, than to slowly make everyone personally responsible for their actions, while not changing the policy of the organization, and removing the negative press and cause for possible future legal action.

THAT is what they have done. You won't be disfellowshipped for it, although that has not been formalized since that would signal change in doctrine.

They can't change the teaching. it will never happen. They can however shift blame, and step away from the mess while limiting their own culpability (in their minds).

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Jehovah's Witnesses Are "The Religion Of Hatred!" Why Would We Want To Return To Your Organization?

by PokerPlayerPhil in

i saw some of the quotes coming out of the new assembly brochure "return to jehovah", why would anyone abused by the congregation decide to return for more hate by the congregation?

jehovah's witness are the first one's who tell you "we are god's organization because we are the only religion that has the love jesus christ spoke about!

", that's a big whooper!

problemaddict 2

Where can I read this fantastical brochure!

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Seriously condsidering disasscoiating

by Ashley L. in

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i am seriously considering disassociating myself.

i want to do this because i no longer consider myself one of jehovah's witnesses.

i no longer consider jehovah as my god and i am in a new religion now.

problemaddict 2

Im not sure I understand the urge to disassociate. I hear usually two things. First, that the person wants "closure". Second that its the "principle".

1) Closure - Some people may get closure from this, but they have created ta mentality that will gain closure from the act. Embracing what you have been up to this point, and deciding to be something else, is fine. Nothing need be "closed". that is a misnomer. Don't cut your nose to spite their face. Just leave. Be who you are. Tell your family what you are comfortable with, and don't look back. No letter required.

2) Principle - What principle exactly? I used to eat peanut butter. Now I don't for some health reasons, and because I try to stay away from legumes. I'm an almond butter man. Have I written to the peanut council of america and explained why they have lost me? I realize that is extreme, but that is my point. there is no principle here. that is what JW's WANT you to think. I remember clearly being taught that if you were a catholic and you became a JW, that you better get your name "off their list". Why? That simply makes no sense.

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The Problems with Blood Fractions

by God_Delusion in

hi guys & gals,.

i've written a new blog on the problems with blood fractions.

i'd really love to hear your feedback on it.. http://www.jehovahswitnessblog.com/blood/the-problem-with-blood-fractions.

problemaddict 2

Good work. I have never seen a JW deal with the blood transfusion issue in any intelligent manner. It is quite frankly, indefensible.

It all reverts back to trusting the slave. the weakest argument that can possibly be made, when you have just showed a flagship doctrine to be incorrect.

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TROLLEY WITNESSING BECOMING A ROUSING SUCESSS!

by nowwhat? in

from last weeks meeting.

"we are now going to talk about experiences from trolley witnesssing" .

this is the honest to god response.

problemaddict 2

It really upsets me that they set up at all these local community colleges. I am going to be writing to one locally, regarding their activity. Are they aware they have anti-scientific views that require strict adherence to the refusal of even life saving procedures, under the penalty of communal shinning? Are they aware that their own institution in which they are being allowed to leave literature is being denigrated as a snare of Satan? Higher education is a big no no.

How about suggesting they have a "religious fair" of sorts if its about exposing the students to various ideas, so that all religions (and even a secular table), can have representation. Then we will see if they show up.

Maybe we could get a few of us here to contribute to this letter, and make it available to send to community colleges anywhere you may see them.

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100 Years Ago, 1.5 Million Christian Armenians Were Systematically Killed. Today, It's Still Not A 'Genocide'

by fulltimestudent in

whatever the reasons, whatever the excuses, whatever the denials - its still a tragedy:.

100 years ago, 1.5 million christian armenians were systematically killed.

today, it's still not a 'genocide'.

problemaddict 2

Turkey has a very clear anti Armenian policy. Its sickening. It even moved a celebration regarding a key WW1 invasion to the same day that Armenians acknowledge this even.....for spite?.......to distract?

The fact America won't even call it a genocide, because Turkey gets all butt hurt over it is just ridiculous. Yet Turkey is a strategic partner for the west in the region, so we don't hurt their feelings over their extermination of 1.5 million Armenians before the Germans made holocaust fashionable.

Its just insane. Armenia has never healed, never recovered, and Mt Ararat which can be seen looming over the capital, is a constant reminder of Turkeys land grab. the border isn't even open!

Turkey can suck balls.

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